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Monday, April 03, 2006

new website design

I'm playing with a new design. Beta version is here. Feedback appreciated.

28 Comments:

At 12:07 PM, Blogger Zachary said...

i would be willing to offer consultation - and my rates are fare.

what program are you using for this?

 
At 10:23 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Dreamweaver.

 
At 10:23 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Lucas said the old site was too crowded and he couldn't find my resume. I think I like this new look a lot better. But I could use some feedback/confirmation.

 
At 1:09 AM, Blogger Zachary said...

lucas is right - it was getting too busy. however, personally i would tweak your old design and thin out some of the content, change and shrink the font, and consider a more riske color scheme than black. i don't know what color says director, but earth tones are always safe.

a big problem is the huge blocks of text. think of a website that sells something. you want to hit your issues with bullet points so that a quick, cursory glance will tell someone immediately who you are. you can have subpages that go into greater detail, but everything should be established for a five-year old's attention span.

i think the new look is comes off looking like not a lot of thought/effort went into it. i think if you unbusy the old one, i'd give it my stamp of approval.

and now looking at the new deisgn again, it seems just as busy to me, and almost more so, because its removed some of the outlines, boxes and dividers.

personally, i'd suggest doing the site up like a playbill or something on that order. if its done not cutesy, it'll have all your info, be stylish, and readily say "theatre-fag -- i mean director"

 
At 3:08 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Fuck. I'm stymied. I hear you about the huge blocks of text, but I don't know how else to convey all that information. I figure most people won't read it -- and I'm fine with that -- but I think it ought to be there for the people who want that sort of thing.

What is it about the new one that looks like not a lot of thought went into it? I was trying to make it look more Web 2.0, more negative space and everything.

I'm not going to do a playbill sort of thing. Too cutesy for my taste.

 
At 7:03 AM, Blogger alex said...

The new one doesn't have a lot of style - I think that is what leads to the sense that not a lot of thought went into it. The old one has a better layout and a good looking splash page (even though I don't personally like those) but is awfully text heavy.

You are using this as a tool to sell yourself and your ideas so the site has to be interesting and inventive without being flashy or cutesy

 
At 1:54 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Yeah, nobody likes splash pages. I like how it looks, but I'm going to dump it. Okay, back to the drawing board...

 
At 2:26 PM, Blogger JMC said...

I liked the old one better. And I like that there is the "latest news" part - maybe have a shorter intro to yourself at the top, then the news, the a link to a more full biography/timeline. I think the sudden impact article and the TV thing are a little out of place and maybe clogging up things a bit. Maybe a link at the top to a page that lists articles and reviews? then again, what the fuck do I know?

 
At 12:41 AM, Blogger Poe said...

Old one is better.

 
At 12:43 AM, Blogger Zachary said...

like i said:

bullet points

that lead to subpages with more heavy content. just thin out what you have on your page, consider adding a little color, perhaps define some of the borders better and you'll be fine.

i think some of the issues came out of the news clips that appear randomly throughout the site. could they be incorporated in a less "busy" fashion? they seemed to add a lot of clutter. though i see how they are important to the over all site.

 
At 2:17 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Fuck. Okay. Trying again.

Here's the thing. There are several things I want to hit people with right away:

-I've directed at The Magic
-I've got lots of good reviews
-I've taught at ACT and the Academy and UCR and Cal Shakes
-I had a play on TV. Plus, I think that interview clip is a perfect "get to know me" kind of thing for the front page (that's why it's so prominent on the old version).

The "Quick Links" is my attempt to get much of that info across visually instead of in a block of text.

I'm also planning on ditching the video/audio page, so the links at the top will be "Directing Resume", "Curriculum Vitae (Teaching Resume)" and "References. And clicking on "Josh Costello" in the title will bring you back to the home page, so I don't need the "Welcome". That will clean it up a bit.

 
At 2:17 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Whoops, forgot to mention the new draft is at http://www.joshcostello.com/newbeta2.html

 
At 2:24 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

sorry again:
here's the latest draft

Realizing that with the PDF icons in the Quick Links, the links in the top menu bar could just be "Directing", "Teaching", and "References". Even simpler.

 
At 6:37 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

trying yet again

This is destroying my life.

Thank you all for the feedback. Please do keep it coming if you can spare the time.

 
At 6:54 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

and an alternate version

Sadie likes this one best.

 
At 10:51 PM, Blogger Poe said...

I like that last one as well. A coupla things though. First, I'd like to see borders on the sides to define the space a bit more. Second, if possible make the quotes links to the articles, or at least to the page for the play each is about.

 
At 11:56 PM, Blogger JMC said...

I like the "trying yet again" a lot, I don't like the alternate. sorry sadie

 
At 12:07 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Weird. I feel like newbeta4, the one Sadie and Adam like, feels the most "thrown together" of them all. I now like the one labeled newbeta5 the best, but I no longer trust my own judgment. Both are slightly updated from the previous versions.

AARRRRGH!

 
At 12:27 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

yet another version

just a variation on the one adam and sadie like

 
At 5:14 PM, Blogger Zachary said...

at this point josh, i think you should just buy a billboard on the 405 and forget about the internet. it's so 2002, anyway...

 
At 12:17 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

Thanks again for all your feedback, everybody. I'm now starting to come around to this one, which is the slightly updated version of the one Sadie and Adam said they liked. Simple and clean and clear.

Any more suggestions for this one specifically? Color scheme? Layout? Poe, do you still need borders on the sides, or does the adjusted margin fix that for you?

 
At 2:13 AM, Blogger Poe said...

Hmmm.... It needs borders, or the background needs to be something other than totally plain white. Nothing too busy, just a little texture or something. I also still think the review quotes should link either to the reviews themselves or to the page on yer site about the particular play. Last, I'm a little put off by the diff sized boxes below the into/bio. Not sure how to change that though... One more thing: make the boxes and stuff in them a bit bigger and easier to read, and make the quotes a bit smaller to compensate. Not much smaller, just a bit.

That enough? Heh. It looks good as it is though, so do whatever.

 
At 2:31 AM, Blogger JMC said...

hmm, I'm pretty much over it, I think you should scrap the whole thing, go back to a paper resume, and pass out yer email address on cocktail napkins...

 
At 2:11 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

another new version of newbeta5

 
At 4:10 PM, Blogger JMC said...

that's the one I like the most (I've been saying this all along). I like that you added "theatre director and teacher" under your name. I really like that design.

 
At 9:26 PM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

pretty sure I'm going with this

Bit of a compromise. I think it's the best of both worlds.

 
At 12:54 AM, Blogger Lorrimer said...

it's done

the new joshcostello.com.

Go there, come back, tell me it's brilliant for the love of god. I mean, tell me if there are broken links and whatnot, but don't tell me you think I should have gone with a different design or you liked the old one better. I'm fuckin done.

Why do I do this to myself?

 
At 12:43 PM, Blogger JMC said...

the real question is why do you keep asking the peanut gallery for our opinions?

 

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